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Diana



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Press button switches for cabin lights.   Posted: Wed 14 Apr 10, 18:39    Reply with quote

We would like to know where to buy replacement press button cabin light switches as one of ours has failed. The switch is a black round button in a clear plastic surround. Does anyone know who makes them or where to buy them?
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Mika Harju



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Re: Press button switches for cabin lights.   Posted: Wed 14 Apr 10, 20:34    Reply with quote

Diana wrote:
We would like to know where to buy replacement press button cabin light switches as one of ours has failed. The switch is a black round button in a clear plastic surround. Does anyone know who makes them or where to buy them?

If you can not get information about the original ones, try these:
http://int.rsdelivers.com/
http://www.farnell.com/
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buckle.roger



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   Posted: Fri 16 Apr 10, 15:22    Reply with quote

Hi Diana

I think you will find that the round black push button is Ok as it is only a one time contact, The push puton operates a relay, this opften sticks if not used regularly, 'note, when on the boat operate all lights from time to time'
Try pressing the button many times, sometimes this gets the relay goping again

You can hear a click when operating the push buttoms, this is the relay ,problem is finding were they are, I have one behind the hanging locker oposite the galey under the cockpit, I must find the others before I have a failure too.

Hope this helps? If you cant find the relays let me know which switch is the problem and I will look on my 920

Good luck

roger
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Diana



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   Posted: Fri 16 Apr 10, 18:27    Reply with quote

Roger, Thank you for your thoughts on the push button problem.
The button which operates the pantry lights got stuck in the "in" position and was making permanent contact, which has caused the relay beside the uder cockpit sliding drawer to burn out in a most spectacular fashion. Last Friday night about an hour after going to bed we were awoken by a very acrid smell emanating from the relay. Leaping out of bed we discovered the light button was stuck in and quickly turned off the battery isolator switch, of course it was too late by then! However, I'd like to replace with a matching button if possible. There are some fairly suitable options at Farnell and other online component wholesalers.
Many thanks,
Diana Taylor
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   Posted: Sat 17 Apr 10, 0:01    Reply with quote

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caused the relay beside the uder cockpit sliding drawer to burn out in a most spectacular fashion


Yikes...... Shocked

Why the relays in the design? Anyone?
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Steve B.



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   Posted: Sat 17 Apr 10, 3:00    Reply with quote

Oscar wrote:
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caused the relay beside the uder cockpit sliding drawer to burn out in a most spectacular fashion


Yikes...... Shocked

Why the relays in the design? Anyone?




The switches are momentary contact.
They energize the relays which are designed to change the state of the lamp contacts with each momentary 12 volt pulse from the switch.

When the switch got stuck in the 'on' position, the relay winding (which is apparently NOT designed for continuous rating) failed by overheating.
This could have caused a complete loss of the boat if not caught!

I'm glad you are OK and that you didn't lose your boat to FIRE !!!

Steve B.
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   Posted: Sat 17 Apr 10, 15:36    Reply with quote

I understand the HOW, I am wondering about the WHY....

What is wrong with a simple on/off switch? KISS!
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   Posted: Sat 17 Apr 10, 16:39    Reply with quote

Oscar wrote:
I understand the HOW, I am wondering about the WHY....

What is wrong with a simple on/off switch? KISS!


It's easy to make 3 way switching arrangement.
Our saloon has a switch at each end.

Maybe Quorning owns a relay company??

<sarcasm>
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Light switches   Posted: Wed 06 May 15, 17:57    Reply with quote

Hi Diana. I know the posts were some time ago, but could you please tell me how you solved the problem. I have a switch that has failed, but see from the very helpful advice from others that it may in fact be the relay. Did you replace the switch and/or relay, and where did you get them from. Could you give me the spec, I have looked on the sites mentioned in the posts, and there are hundreds of products! Just need to know the correct one. Many thanks
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Diana



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   Posted: Wed 06 May 15, 22:54    Reply with quote

Hi Andy.
We never did find a match for the push button and we looked for over a year. In the end we just took it to bits and carefully cleaned it, lubricated it (sparingly) and reassembled it. We take care to make sure it always comes back out after we have pushed it.
We did find the relay and have now had to replace two (different ones). These we got from Conrad Electronics
www.conrad-electronic.co.uk
The part number is 503399-LN
Put it in the search bar at the top of their website and it should come up - 9.49 + VAT
Hope that is helpful
Diana
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Light switches/relays   Posted: Fri 08 May 15, 16:36    Reply with quote

Hi Diana,
Thanks very much for the information on the relays. Just one more question, where was the relay on your boat located for the light above the galley? I think that was the one you had trouble with, and I have the same problem in the same location.
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Follow the "Click" sound   Posted: Fri 08 May 15, 16:45    Reply with quote

On my DF1000, there are several relays for lights.
They are mounted behind the electrical panel.

Listen for the click sound and you should be able to find your relay(s).
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Diana



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   Posted: Fri 08 May 15, 17:12    Reply with quote

Hi Andy
I don't know if they are all the same. We have the sink and the electrical switch panel on the port side just inside the door. If you pull out the drawer from under the cockpit sole and crawl into the space under the cockpit, it is on the floor on the port side close to the rear of the bulkhead between the cabin and the cockpit.
If like ours the second time around when the relay stopped working it also stopped clicking you may have to use an electrical tester or use a bit of trial and error to find out if you are replacing the correct relay.
Good luck
Diana
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