DRAGONFLY Trimarans User Forum

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Great advice Gminkovsky.
Much hindsight to be sure. Next time I'll be armed with more perspective and wisdom!

We are certainly going to begin the hunt for the next boat. And a little more room is on the requirements list.

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It is with extraordinary (and surprising to me and the family) pain I announce we lost our beloved SW800 in hurricane Matthew. She was on an inner dock, secured and buffered well but that was not enough apparently. Theory is the broadside winds and very high water were the deciding factors. She had ...

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Good info on top down feeding. Although when I pulled the boom off the mast, I left the reefing lines inside the mast. So I'll try a few options before re-feeding down through the boom sheaves, forward into the mast then down the mast through the turn-sheaves.... And while I'd love to hit Long Islan...

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Just wrote up an update here http://www.dragonfly-trimarans.org/phpB ... .php?t=802

Thanks to everyone for your help. We've had a couple of days on the water this last week and I'm very happy that season of work is over...

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After 6 mos on the hard in the backyard, we put Turas in the water a week ago and had a shake down cruise this past Saturday. Some notes: Thanks gminkovsky for setting me straight on the Dyneema line for the daggerboard. Done. Failed to note a properly wound spool on the furler until after I pulled ...

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Hello folks. Short story, I've lost one of the base frames (?) of an ama hatch. In the process now of trying to get a price (and availability of course) for just that aluminum piece but in the process I began to wonder why Quorning uses acrylic (translucent) hatches in the amas. Why not a flush acce...

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After pulling the trailer forward, I dug a trench under the CB box. Much trial and error but 24" deep did the trick.

Seems folks recommend 5/16" Dyeema to replace the line? Any comments?

FYI this has been a wonderful arm and shoulder workout.

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I trying to pull my centerboard and looking for guidance all around.
Thanks.

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Hey guys. General updating is going well. Chose Micron CSC, re-decked everything on the cabin top, replaced the solar panel, working on shaping a new tiller and re-wired the mast. The hull is about 85% sanded and just got the boat up off the trailer. Now, I can't figure out how much clearance I need...

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Howdy. The shuttle (?) that tensions the clew parted line and has now been replaced in the boom crank. But I have no idea how much slack that line needs. Anyone have a measurement on the max distance forward the clew attachment shuttle travels before maxing the slack? As always, I'm grateful for all...

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DF88... I'm in the thick of this problem now. Trying to find some rental stands, then using a floor jack, lift fore and aft and prop her up. My stock trailer does have roller guides but the bunks seem to be bearing considerable stability / weight. Let me know if you solve this problem with trailer m...

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Yep, grabbed a "lead paint / particulate" filter. Thanks for the check on getting a VOC filter.

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Ended up going Micron Extra CSC, 216 thinner and the Interlux epoxy as step one. The respirator wisdom was taken to heart early so I bought the Bosch sander and have it hooked to the Shop Vac. Very little dust so my respirator doesn't have to work too hard (I hope). Got the Defender order in (parall...

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Howdy folks. Quick updates... After talking with a couple of yards and reading y'alls guidance, I'm leaning toward the Micron Extra CSC. West Marine Gold and one of the Petit products got good reviews too. QUESTION- How much paint do I buy? I'm going to go with the Special Thinner 216 first, then th...

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Reviving this post as I've now got the boat out of the water for some much needed bottom paint and general maintenance. A link to the sheave source would be great. The existing sheaves are chipped, different sizes, etc. So an actual link to replacement versions would be hugely helpful. I browsed Def...

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Hello folks. Happy New Year! I'm hauling the boat this weekend to do all the work I should have done last winter when we brought her home. Honestly we were so excited to learn how to rig her and get her in the water I put off what I should have done...well, it's time to beautify her. A quick update....

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Boat bucks. I'm getting more familiar with the term! On a hard port tack last Friday, glanced off of sand bar that kicked the rudder up but did not impact the centerboard. In the process of lateral pressure (tacking) and the upward impact the rectangular aluminum stock sheared off on both sides of t...

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Just lost the tiller aluminum frame yesterday. Just old age (25 years old) and corrosion just forward of some bolts used to secure the autopilot mount. I'd love to know what you did for this repair? Did you have a new unit fabricated? Order from Quorning? I'll post up some photos and ask on the gene...

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Hey y'all I've read the forums but hoped for some more current info. The trampolines (nets?) are coming up on 20 years old I'd guess and show some previous repairs. While out today we noticed a seperation mid-tramp outboard from the plastic mesh and the sewn webbing. It's about 6 inches long. Told t...

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Old thread I know but did you ever solve this?
I also can't make the last couple of centimeters to lock the ama into its retracted position.

I'd love some guidance here.
Rad

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A gentle tug on the extension tore it out of the handle so I need to replace it. Anyone know a source or have direction on where to have one constructed?

Thanks y'all.

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Discovered my port cockpit drain hose leaking. Replaced it with a solid wall exhaust hose that had to be badly mangled to make the fit work. Sealed well but drains slowly. And I'd guess that any leaves or debris will clog it quickly. With that, can anyone point me to a source for a better hose solut...

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Just to close this out, my aka's on the SW800 does not have any weeping / drainage holes so I'll have to remedy that I think. I replaced the corroded block with this from eBay- Ronstan RF74202 Series 75 Core Block Double Non-Swivel Overkill, yes. But it was cheaper than the Series 60 oddly enough. W...

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UPDATE: Leaking bladder from the bottom hose connection. Pulled the head, bladder and all hoses out of the boat and now I'm trying to finalize the smell abatement...Tried vinegar but now I'm on to Simple Green. On another note, anyone know where to get replacement hose for the cockpit drains? Port s...

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Perfect. Thanks.
I'll double check my akas and may have to get the drill out...

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Wow, never thought that the strut would fail...I'll have to look into the fixed cable / line to bow solution. Question, should there be / could there be weep holes on the underside of the aka? The corroded block was sitting in a slush of salt and water. I rinsed it well but the standing water is an ...

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I use the aluminum pole with locking pin to secure the ama forward. The tramp failure was the surprise and luckily we were at anchor! I've ordered a Ronstan double block off of eBay and expect it to solve the problem. I'll def heavily inspect both tackles for corrosion...and load them up with some l...

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Hello wise counsel. Took Turas out on her shakedown cruise this past Friday. Many thanks to you who helped made it happen. All went well (motoring only) except an unexpected net failure! The whole family had taken up on the port net / trampoline for lunch while at anchor. Our total weight was 472 lb...

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Thanks for the guidance Christian. Your clear direction made the setup easy after I discovered what the bag of blocks and line were for! Now, my question is a launching. I'm still looking for wet storage (but not sure it's worth the extraordinary costs!!) but in the mean time, I've got a ramp 2 mile...

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That's what I call killing my learning curve!!
Awesome info. Thank you.

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The small pulleys scattered through the running gear (4 on the mast base) need replacing.
Anyone have a US source? Or at least dimensions? Are they a particular type of plastic?

Thanks again for the collective wisdom.

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Roger that on the o rings. Found them at the hardware store. Thank you.
I'll run through the rest of the through the hull fittings....wow.

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Hello corporate wisdom. Noticed this weekend, after some fierce rain, that the small (8 inch?) round deck plate on the top deck drips. Is repair simply pulling it out and re applying marine adhesive? Also, it's very scratched and opaque. I'm wondering if now is a good time to replace it. Lexan? Any ...

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Thanks G. No idea why I did not think to go get a photo of the rigging. Yep, perfect sense and now that you've pointed this out, there was a bag of red and green line with tackle included in the boat. Now I know what they are for. And your previous commentary about tuning now makes even more sense. ...

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First, I'm indebted to all of the wisdom you've condensed on this thread. Thank you all. After wrestling with Oak tree branches 40 feet above the trailer (2 attempts to step the mast stopped at 90%) I moved the boat back in the driveway and started winching away. 10 minutes later, the mast dropped q...

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Wheeww... So much to learn. I'm thankful for your warning about the main halyard sheathing. I've stopped the mast raising process and waiting for new line from Defender...I opted for the middle of the road cost/performance line. Thank you for the warning! I'm moving on to rebuilding winches, checkin...

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Excellent wisdom gminkovsky, thank you. I got the mast about 60% up and realized I'd end up snagging some Life Oak branches on the way up. So back down it went. But very encouraged. I'll have to more closely inspect the nets. I hope to get this season out of them but to your point, Savannah should b...

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gminkovsky and Steve... Thanks for your input. Truly valuable. I did get in on the Defender sale. Not quite the kitchen sink but saved a few bucks. On the nets, I did ask around here in Savannah for a sail loft or someone that does canvas work and I think there is one place left. I'll have to check ...

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Finally had time to dive into SW800 (she's unnamed at this point) this weekend. I'm in the hunt for rigging clevis pins and Andersen ST12 winch parts (Starboard side...the top pate broke in half, just under the tailing plate). Trampoline replacement (in the next year or 2 max). Any guidance on sourc...

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Thanks Christian. I'll def check on which rig I've got. Last weekend saw a lot done on the boat. I got the ama's mounted, nets (trampolines?) mounted mostly..looking for some clevis pins this week. Also, found the mast step aids in the amas. Pretty excited about tackling that learning curve this wee...

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Thanks for the encouragement Phil. I'm wading into it slowly. I figured the mast stepping learning curve is not one to fail on, so I'm looking for a local rigger that will at least hold my hand once...but I'm stubborn enough to forge ahead if I can't find that rigger. rad Hi Radoford, Welcome and co...

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Not bad. I thought long and hard about the upside down method, but decided against it because you now have to find a place for the beams. With my solution the beams travel on the ama, in fact the "stays" don't even have to come off.... In case you haven't seen my solution: http://www.yout...

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Please include me on any photos / data you have. Especially the home built solutions. While I've not attempted to step the mast yet (and will have a helper for the first few attempts) there has to be an easier way to manage the process. I'll post a link, hopefully this weekend, to images of what I b...

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Happy to measure and document with images. Let me make sure what I have is actually the stepping kit. I've yet to fully audit all the lines and gear that came with the boat.

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Excellent advice Phil. Thank you for the wisdom. I"ll proceed with extreme caution. My hope is to get the mast stepped a few times sitting in my yard before I"ve got to put it up at the ramp. I'll keep you posted. rad That sounds like a mast raising kit - wish I had one! I've had all sorts...

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Just purchased #242 and found some dark liquid in the bilge. The smell could be organic matter (cockpit drains?) that sat too long but could it be a leaking holding tank bladder? How long do they last? Source to replace it? Thanks to the collective wisdom. I'm not familiar with the DF800. What mate...

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Thanks gminkovsky. I connected with Richard before I bought the boat but a good reminder to reconnect with him. The previous owner told me there is no installed bilge pump on the SW800. So I'll clean her out the old fashioned way (wet/dry vac). Unpacking the cabin I did find what I believe to be the...

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Just purchased #242 and found some dark liquid in the bilge. The smell could be organic matter (cockpit drains?) that sat too long but could it be a leaking holding tank bladder?

How long do they last? Source to replace it? Thanks to the collective wisdom.

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gminkovsky- I pulled DF SW800. #242, home on Friday. Now the puzzle begins! So many questions but if you will, 2 pressing ones. 1. Bilge Pump - Was there a factory, electric, bilge pump and if so, where is it? 2. Stepping - Can it be done without the stepping kit or a crane? That is, manually. Thank...

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Just bought SW800 #242 and pulled her to Savannah. The boat has been put up for 2 seasons and I'm finding her quite the puzzle to get assembled. Might anyone have drawings / sketches of the boat's lines / rigging? I'm feeling my way along slowly so ANY help tackling my learning curve is greatly appr...

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